LU#4 "Happy New Year"
vol. XII, no. 297
December, 2006

Well, well, the last LU issue of the year. And it is with this issue that I must bow out and bid you adieu. I recently graduated from Lipscomb and am currently on the market, as it were. And so I will leave the Underground in the care of ANOTHER female keeper. Yes you read that correctly. Us females is takin' over. Hopefully a one Beth Thompson will continue the prestigious (?) position as the Keeper and bring a breath of fresh air to the LUnderground.

That's a good segue to some things I have to say before I go and leave my last series of smarmy comments. Allow me to say that I am disappointed - at myself, but also at the readers of the Underground. Granted, most of us have real lives, with careers and children and being important and such, but the LU is not as vibrant as she used to be (as one poster so helpfully pointed out, as you will soon read). A former LU host led me to think about the LU as a reflection of the campus community itself; such stagnancy could be because of newer students simply not aware of the LU. I blame this upon myself - my own lack of attention to it (due to studies, etc.), but also place some blame upon faithful (at least, they used to be) readers who have also allowed the LU to wither.

This Underground isn't completely up to me, people. It survives upon the comments, issues, opinions, and the like of those affiliated with Lipscomb University. Its purpose is to discuss issues that wouldn't usually be allowed to be discussed in an open forum - which is why it is titled the UNDERGROUND. Am I wrong? This is a small site dedicated to ensuring that those of LU are allowed to say what they want to say, within decorum/limits/whatever. New President Dr. Lowry is undoubtedly bringing a more liberal interpretation to the school, but I don't think that a strong enough reason for the Underground to quiet down, and dare I say, die. This started when Justin Gregory was at the helm - perhaps even when Jeremy Howard was the keeper. Do we not care anymore?

Why did I take the position of the LU's keeper? I wanted leave a mark - even a small one - on the university, to somehow be a part of it. I knew that I wasn't/am not the kind of person to enter a social club, or even a service club (which is actually a social club anyway). The LU was just my way to be involved, if you will.

So, all I really have are questions. Is the quiet staleness of the LU due to lack of awareness? To Lowry's new liberal version of the school? Or is it just my fault? If it is, then I will take the blame. But I don't believe that it is. I will even ask: is it because of the fact that I happen to the be the first female keeper of the LU?

Alas, all I say are words. It is up to Beth now (you can contact her via, until she says otherwise), to increase awareness and start up conversation. I'm sure she'll do a better job than I did. It is also up to LU's readers, to keep up the legacy (such an epic word but I found it appropriate) and the privileges of the Underground. I strongly encourage LU readers to visit the archives and read past issues in order to feel what the LU was truly about, why it was created, why it is here right now.

---peace, and happy new year.

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I know it can be hard to believe at first, but, when you think about it, nearly all of Jesus’ recorded miracles were pretty much instantaneous. There's a lot less of a "miraculous factor" if cancer or sickness goes away over time (not to say that doesn't happen or isn't a good thing!). It's a lot more common than you think, but I understand if people haven't necessarily heard a lot about this. My church/school is (thankfully) not promoting themselves in this healing stuff, but promoting the Kingdom of God. So if talking about (or performing) miracles helps spread the name of Jesus, then we're all about that! But the point is not to lead people to our church, but to God. Our pastor, Bill Johnson, was in Nashville this weekend at Grace Center church in Franklin, and Belmont Church in Nashville. From what I've been hearing, a huge percentage of people in those services experienced healing in their bodies (my fiancé' and her sister, for example). God is way more interested in healing people than we give Him credit for. Lots of people figure that if they don't experience a miracle, then God must not work that way anymore, not realizing they just need to believe a little bit more for that breakthrough. So there is a great revival and reawakening going on worldwide where God is moving supernaturally just like He did in the time of Jesus--it's worth looking into! (that's my church and school in CA)


(It seriously does sound like something worth looking into, Daniel. Continue to spread the word.- Nat)


So Dr. Lee, the guy who calls himself a conservative but who takes the rather extreme left on most every issue that comes up, the guy who spices his classes with profanity, the dude who is a violent pacifist J, is incredulous that some believed he took a rather unorthodox view and was quoted as making some rather extreme statements – irony is amazing! Also, please note that at no time did Dr. C ever say he was misquoted…hmmm…


( what are you saying? Eh? - Nat)


Has every geek at LU assimilated?


(It's possible. - Nat)


Fucking A, Dr. Camp. You go! That was truly in the tradition of David Lipscomb.

Regarding "the fundamental foundation [Lipscomb] was built upon," (Natalie's words?) suffice it to say that David Lipscomb was a libertarian to the point of being an functional anarchist.

He was also an ardent pacifist who would have opposed the war in Iraq. Don't kid yourself about how serious he was about pacifism. It was not some abstract belief system for him. Instead, he wrote letters to the Confederacy and the Union during the Civil War so that members of the Church of Christ (followers of Campbell and Stone) could get out of military service.

Do yourself a favor: go to and buy David Lipscomb's book ON CIVIL GOVERNMENT or check it out from a local library. Read it over the holidays. People intent on ruining Dr. Camp's career need to remember that the man speaks with the authority and voice of the founder of that great institution, David Lipscomb University.

Thank God Steve Flatt is no longer running the show. Camp would have been out on his ass with Doug Varnado, Randy Harris, and Branden Fredenburg (whom most of you will not remember, but trust me, Flatt cleaned the liberals right out of the Bible department, though Harris did leave on his own). Looks like we've finally got a university president who can lead. Lipscomb U is once again a free speech zone.

Natalie, we hate to see you go, especially when you managed to run the underground, well, underground. It went from a thriving 10+ issues-per-semester publication to a dried up trickle under your watch. Way to be.

Why not partner with the Belmont blog? Sounds like a good plan to me.

Dr. Hilarius

(I'll miss your snarky comments during my run, doc. Your incredibly helpful comments and posts, as usual, were quick to criticize/offend but slow to construct. But I kind of agreed with your opinions part of the time, as yours about Dr. Camp.

Perhaps I should start insulting you, so you can respond in kind - and it can spark up the LU and bring it back up to ten issues per semester under Beth's watch. Let's see...oh, I've got one. Why do you call yourself Dr. Hilarius when nothing you say is funny? *badum tssssh*

Thanks for commenting, you irreverent smart ass. - Nat)


Cheesy Filler

Top Ten Ways The Bible Would Be Different If It Were Written By College Students
(from a good friend)

10. Loaves and Fishes replaced by Pizza and Chips.

9. Ten Commandments are actually only five, double-spaced and written in a large font.

8. Forbidden fruit would have been eaten because it wasn't dorm food.

7. Paul's Letters to the Romans become Paul's E-Mail to the Romans.

6. Reason Cain killed Abel: They were roommates.

5. The place where the end of the world occurs: not Armageddon, but Finals.

4. Book of Armaments would be in there somewhere.

3. Reason why Moses and followers walked in desert for 40 years: They didn't want to ask directions and look like a Freshman.

2. Tower of Babel blamed for Foreign Language requirement.

1. Instead of God creating the world in six days and resting on the seventh, He would have put it off until the night before it was due and then pulled an all-nighter and hoped no one noticed.

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LU#4 "Happy New Year"
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December, 2006

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